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Dear Rubyng2004 - Thank you for working on and using the wiki. I wanted to share a couple of things that might make some of your page creations easier. To make a composers page you can use this to start the template:
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Please review the existence of Category:Percussion 12+ Works<br>
  
<b><nowiki>{{</nowiki>subst:composers}}</b><br>
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Dear Ruby: Where I am from, the category exists for people to look for percussion ensemble works for 12 or more players... This is a necessary distinction to allow people to see all the works that include 12 or more players. It doesn't hurt anyone to have multiple ways to sort items. I am fine with keeping sub categories beyond 12 as you have been doing, but we can still have a sub category of all works and composers who have written works for 12 or more players. Thank you for understanding and leaving this category in place. Cheers!
  
To create a page for a composition you can use
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There are 217 works under Percussion 12; 149 works under Percussion 13; 120 works under Percussion 14; 54 works under Percussion 15; 49 works under Percussion 16; 34 works under Percussion 17; 23 works under Percussion 18; 19 works under Percussion 19 and 47 works under Percussion 20+, it seems that is becoming more inconvenient for searching while putting them into same category.
  
<b><nowiki>{{</nowiki>subst:works}}</b><br>
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I can see the benefits of having individual categories beyond 12 for all the reasons you suggest. For me, I like to see large lists of items to choose from when doing a random search, so the broad categories have as much use as more narrowed searches....ie: Composers - in general that is a way to see the broad picture while you can also narrow it down as you see fit by number of players, or many other ways. I will think about it a bit more, but I don't see a problem by having more ways to sort the data rather than fewer. And it fits a definite search criteria for the state festivals that I am catering to by having this particular sorting point.
  
For reference in linking your pages to categories, I have created a couple of templates that you can use as a guide
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open a new tab and search for <b>Common Categories</b>  and another one called  <b>Common Works Categories</b>. These can be very helpful in cutting and pasting at the bottom of the pages.
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In terms of composer category, there are many categories of different nationality, but you won't put a german composer into a european composer category. If so, I will agree to put a piece with 13 or more players under the category of 12+
  
Hopefully this is helpful. :-)
 
  
== Category Changes or structural wiki changes ==
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11/29/25
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Sorry - Just seeing your last statement - If you think a European category would be helpful, I'm fine with it... not in lieu of German as you mentioned... but in addition too. I think over generalizing places can also come off wrong... ie "Latin" and Asian, American all are not really helpful in identifying where people are from.
  
Dear Rubyng2004,
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Thank you again for all of your contributions to the wiki. Your additions have been very helpful in helping the wiki grow.<br>
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I also need to request that you stop deleting categories... There are a few all works need to belong to.... Solo Percussion and Percussion Ensemble. Solo Percussion is a solo instrument with or without an accompaniment.  When there are two or more percussion instruments, they will get the Percussion Ensemble tag. All works will end up in one of the two categories at the very minimum. Please stop erasing tags.
  
I wanted to ask you to perhaps reach out to me to discuss category and other structural changes so that we are not creating inconsistencies in the wiki. For instance, I had the percussion ensembles capped at 12 and anything that was larger, just fit under 12+. I have seen that you added it up to 20+ now. I don't think that is a problem, but it is inconsistent with how the wiki has been setup and therefore work is being repeated and deleted and ultimately wasting each others time.  
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I am also happy to talk with you about the wiki as you seem to have invested a lot of time into editing the site. Perhaps a better forum like email would be easier if there are any questions or concerns. I am happy to entertain ideas on ways to improve the site, but right now I don't know you and you are making decisions that I am beginning to be uncomfortable with. Please reach out if you have any questions, I would like to work together so that this project can be beneficial for you, me and the others. My name is Tracy Freeze and my email is tfreeze@emporia.edu I hope to hear from you!
 
 
If you have any ideas about categories and how it might best fit in the wiki, please feel free to contact me at tfreeze@emporia.edu to discuss any of these changes.
 
 
 
Thank you again and I appreciate your contributions!
 
 
 
Best wishes to you!
 
Tracy
 
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Latest revision as of 01:07, 30 November 2025

Please review the existence of Category:Percussion 12+ Works

____ Dear Ruby: Where I am from, the category exists for people to look for percussion ensemble works for 12 or more players... This is a necessary distinction to allow people to see all the works that include 12 or more players. It doesn't hurt anyone to have multiple ways to sort items. I am fine with keeping sub categories beyond 12 as you have been doing, but we can still have a sub category of all works and composers who have written works for 12 or more players. Thank you for understanding and leaving this category in place. Cheers!

There are 217 works under Percussion 12; 149 works under Percussion 13; 120 works under Percussion 14; 54 works under Percussion 15; 49 works under Percussion 16; 34 works under Percussion 17; 23 works under Percussion 18; 19 works under Percussion 19 and 47 works under Percussion 20+, it seems that is becoming more inconvenient for searching while putting them into same category.

I can see the benefits of having individual categories beyond 12 for all the reasons you suggest. For me, I like to see large lists of items to choose from when doing a random search, so the broad categories have as much use as more narrowed searches....ie: Composers - in general that is a way to see the broad picture while you can also narrow it down as you see fit by number of players, or many other ways. I will think about it a bit more, but I don't see a problem by having more ways to sort the data rather than fewer. And it fits a definite search criteria for the state festivals that I am catering to by having this particular sorting point.


In terms of composer category, there are many categories of different nationality, but you won't put a german composer into a european composer category. If so, I will agree to put a piece with 13 or more players under the category of 12+


11/29/25 Sorry - Just seeing your last statement - If you think a European category would be helpful, I'm fine with it... not in lieu of German as you mentioned... but in addition too. I think over generalizing places can also come off wrong... ie "Latin" and Asian, American all are not really helpful in identifying where people are from.

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I also need to request that you stop deleting categories... There are a few all works need to belong to.... Solo Percussion and Percussion Ensemble. Solo Percussion is a solo instrument with or without an accompaniment. When there are two or more percussion instruments, they will get the Percussion Ensemble tag. All works will end up in one of the two categories at the very minimum. Please stop erasing tags.

I am also happy to talk with you about the wiki as you seem to have invested a lot of time into editing the site. Perhaps a better forum like email would be easier if there are any questions or concerns. I am happy to entertain ideas on ways to improve the site, but right now I don't know you and you are making decisions that I am beginning to be uncomfortable with. Please reach out if you have any questions, I would like to work together so that this project can be beneficial for you, me and the others. My name is Tracy Freeze and my email is tfreeze@emporia.edu I hope to hear from you!